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Dear Deb, I hope you do find your things that ease this for you soon and I apreciated hearing of a book reguarding Herpes I had not heard of before.  I always take what I like from something and disguard the rest if need be but can almost always find some good somewhere.  I have heard many people here say that diet effects them and many who think it does not.I think unless it  is monitored closely it is hard to tell but for some after having herpes for years the triggers become more and more obvious.  Some of those foods listed have been mentioned by people on the group to be big triggers in the past. Love, Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just to clarify. I am not a salesperson pushing anyones book.  Someone on this ng asked about lysine and diet, etc and I had some answers.  I quoted the book to show the there is info out there and I wanted to share what I read. I do not have any personal experience with diet and HSV and as you can see from my previous posts NOTHING is working for me.  Diet nor meds. But for some they do and I’m happy for anyone that gets relief from this virus and I want to hear and learn all I can as do most of us. Quoting a signature at the bottom of some posts  – — "Share what you know, learn what you don’t" <holding hands DEB — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.

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Thank you for your support Mary.  About the book, I’m glad I could give you some new info.   Sharing is a good thing.  (as Martha would say) Deb

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AAAWWWW, :) :):)  thank you……yer welcome :) Love, Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you for your support Mary.  About the book, I’m glad I could give you some new info.   Sharing is a good thing.  (as Martha would say) Deb

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a nice, big margarine and plain yogurt sandwich.  Yum.<

Yum??????  Putting "nice" in front of that description made it an oxymoron to me!!!! LOL K

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Just to clarify. I am not a salesperson pushing anyones book.  Someone on this ng asked about lysine and diet, etc and I had some answers.  I quoted the book to show the there is info out there and I wanted to share what I read. I do not have any personal experience with diet and HSV and as you can see from my previous posts NOTHING is working for me.  Diet nor meds. But for some they do and I’m happy for anyone that gets relief from this virus and I want to hear and learn all I can as do most of us. Quoting a signature at the bottom of some posts  – — "Share what you know, learn what you don’t" <holding hands DEB — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.

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Everyone has a different chemical make up

in their bodies that cannot be explained and the natural ways may not work for some.  They didn’t work for me. < Amen to that…I can eat chocolate and nuts all day long if I want with no problems, while others just smell it and have an ob.  (not literally of course!) K

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I try to stay away from chocolate and nuts so as to keep herpes at bay.  Are sunflower seeds considered nuts, and thus high in arginine?

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I commend you for your efforts and sincerely hope that this method works for you but please understand that not all people that have herpes should stay away from chocolate and nuts or whatever it is that is giving you trouble. Everybody is different.   Take Care, Yosh I try to stay away from chocolate and nuts so as to keep herpes at bay.  Are sunflower seeds considered nuts, and thus high in arginine?

We are, each of us, angels with one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another. Lucian de Crescenzo

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Hi Larry: Check the nutritional info. on www.herpes.com.  They have a list of these foods…seems to me that sunflower seeds ARE considered nuts but don’t have time to check for you…sorry! K

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For those of us that are trying to change our diets in an effort to try to make our bodies fight off this virus here is a quote from Michele Picozzi’s book "Controlling Herpes Naturally". Foods high in arginine.  Peauts, sunflower seeds, chocolate, soybeans, gelatin, carob adn coconut are high in arginine content.  Almond paste, a common and often hidden ingredient in many baked goods, also can trigger a negative reaction in sensitive individuals.  Onions, raw or fried, also should be avoided.

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djct61254 worte: For those of us that are trying to change our diets in an effort to try to make our bodies fight off this virus here is a quote from Michele Picozzi’s book "Controlling Herpes Naturally". Foods high in arginine.  Peauts, sunflower seeds, chocolate, soybeans, gelatin, carob adn coconut are high in arginine content.  Almond paste, a common and often hidden ingredient in many baked goods, also can trigger a negative reaction in sensitive individuals.  Onions, raw or fried, also should be avoided.

Soybeans are an excellent food, and necessary for those of us who are lactose-intolerant.  They are an excellent source of fiber, so I would hate to see anyone leave them out of their diet.  This may just be another book salesperson trying to sell their self-published book.  I haven’t read it, and don’t know what facts they have about nutritional studies.

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For the folks that would like to try and control herpes naturally…. GO FOR IT! More power to you.  I just wanted to say that not everybody that has herpes can be successful on this road and I didn’t want anyone to feel discouraged if the *natural* methods were not working.  Everyone has a different chemical make up in their bodies that cannot be explained and the natural ways may not work for some.  They didn’t work for me.   All I am saying is everybody should try and keep an open mind here… Djct61254…… have the natural ways helped for you?  If so…. What exactly has helped you?  This might definitely be of HELP for the folks that this will actually work for….. Just be careful… I wish that the natural ways could work for me…. Then I might not have to take meds to control my flare ups.  However, I’m not sure if that would solve the rate of asymptomatic shedding.  Right now…. Keeping my partner herpes free is a top priority. Take Care, Yosh We are, each of us, angels with one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another. Lucian de Crescenzo

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Larry, I am one of those people who is very sensitive to lysine and arginine.  If you are as well, this table may be of help for you.  Like it says below, you should take into consideration the overall amount of arginine a food has in it, as well as the ratio of lysine to arginine.  Though onions have a very low lysine/arginine ratio, the overall amount of arginine in a typical serving of onions is not enough to trigger an OB for me.  On the other hand, a comparable amount of sesame seeds would have nearly twenty times the amount of arginine.  To be safe, stay away from the sesame seeds and fix yourself a nice, big margarine and plain yogurt sandwich.  Yum. John   Diet and vitamin supplements may influence viral replication. A      total approach to nutrition should be used. Use this chart as a      guide or a reference only, and see what happens. Look at the      absolute figures for lysine and arginine content. There is no      reason to avoid a food if it has a low lysine/arginine ratio and      only a few mg of arginine in it. Ratio of Lysine to Arginine in Certain Foods, by James M. Scutero      Transcribed and calculated using data from Agricultural Handbook,      1-23, U.S. Department of Agriculture.                                  Weight (gm) Lys (mg) Arg (mg)Ratio Lys/Arg        Margarine                 14.1        9        3       3.000        Plain Yogurt              227         706      237     2.979        Fruit Yogurt, lowfat      227         810      272     2.978        Plain Yogurt, skim        227         1160     391     2.967        Plain Yogurt, lowfat      227         1060     359     2.953        Swiss Cheese              28          733      263     2.787        Gruyere Cheese            28          768      276     2.783        Edam Cheese               28          754      273     2.762        American Cheese Spread    28          427      155     2.755        Gouda Cheese              28          752      273     2.755        Whey, dry, sweet          7.5         77       28      2.750        Blue Cheese               28          526      202     2.604        Provolone Cheese          28          750      290     2.586        Papaya                    454         76       30      2.533        Brie Cheese               28          525      208     2.524        Camermbert Cheese         28          501      199     2.518        Parmesan Cheese           28          937      373     2.512        Parmesan Cheese, grated   5           192      77      2.494        Gjetost Cheese            28          231      93      2.484        Goat Milk                 244         708      291     2.433        Brick Cheese              28          602      248     2.427        Muenster Cheese           28          606      250     2.424        Beets                     136         72       30      2.400        Limburger Cheese          28          475      198     2.399        Tilsit Cheese             28          578      241     2.398        Port du salut Cheese      28          563      235     2.396        Processed Swiss Cheese    28          696      293     2.375        Cream Cheese              28          192      81      2.370        Mozzarella Cheese, part s 28          699      295     2.369        Processed American Cheese 28          623      263     2.369        Mozzarella Cheese         28          559      236     2.369        Neufchatel Cheese         28          253      107     2.364        Butter                    14.1        9        4       2.250        Colby Cheese              28          561      254     2.209        Monterey Jack Cheese      28          578      262     2.206        Cheshire Cheese           28          551      250     2.204        Cheddar Cheese            28          588      267     2.202        Buttermilk                245         679      309     2.197        Skim Milk                 245         663      302     2.195        Half and Half Cream       242         568      259     2.193        Sherbet                   193         171      78      2.192        Condensed Milk, sweetened 306         1920     876     2.192        Chocolate Milk            250         629      287     2.192        Nonfat Milk, dry          120         3440     1570    2.191        Lowfat Milk, 2%           244         644      294     2.190        Evaporated Milk           126         681      311     2.190        Ice Cream                 133         381      174     2.190        Whole Milk                244         637      291     2.189        Whole Milk, dry           128         2670     1220    2.189        Nonfat Milk, dry, instant 68          1890     864     2.188        Ice Milk                  131         409      187     2.187        Whipping Cream, heavy     238         387      177     2.186        Evaporated Milk, skim     128         763      349     2.186        Whipping Cream, light     239         411      188     2.186        Ice Cream, rich           148         327      150     2.180        Mango                     300         85       39      2.179        Whipped Cream, pressurize 60          152      70      2.171        Apricot                   114         103      48      2.146        Coffee Cream              15          32       15      2.133        Apple                     150         17       8       2.125        Ricotta Cheese            246         3290     1550    2.123        Ricotta Cheese, part skim 246         3320     1570    2.115        Pear, dried               175         116      56      2.071        Eggnog                    254         758      378     2.005        Applesauce, unsweetened   244         24       12      2.000        Crabapple, slices         110         28       14      2.000        Loquat                    16          2        1       2.000        Apple, dried              64          37       19      1.947        Pear                      180         23       12      1.917        Apricot, dried            35          89       49      1.816        Cottage Cheese, creamed   210         2120     1190    1.782        Cottage Cheese, Lowfat 2% 226         2510     1410    1.780        Cottage Cheese, dry       145         2020     1140    1.772        Fig, dried                189         228      131     1.740        Fig                       65          19       11      1.727        Human Milk                246         168      105     1.600        Avocado                   272         189      119     1.588        Salmon                    85          1550     1000    1.550        Swordfish                 85          1550     1000    1.550        Haddock                   85          1480     961     1.540        Smelt                     85          1380     897     1.538        Snapper                   85          1600     1040    1.538        Pollock                   85          1520     989     1.537        Eel                       85          1440     938     1.535        Catfish                   85          1420     925     1.535        Anchovy, in oit, drained  20          531      346     1.535        Whitefish                 85          1490     971     1.535        Tuna, in water            165         4480     2920    1.534        Cod                       85          1390     906     1.534        Flat fish, flounder and s 85          1470     959     1.533        Mackerel                  85          1450     946     1.533        Shark                     85          1640     1070    1.533        Carp                      85          1390     907     1.533        Pike                      85          1500     979     1.532        Herring                   85          1400     914     1.532        Sardines, in oil, drained 24          542      354     1.531        Bass                      85          1380     902     1.530        Perch                     85          1450     948     1.530        Bluefish                  85          1560     1020    1.529        Halibut                   85          1620     1060    1.528        Tomato                    123         41       27      1.519        Turnips                   130         47       31      1.516        Tomato juice              243         54       36      1.500        Soybean sprouts           70          386      266     1.451        Canadian Style Bacon      454         7370     5100    1.445        Wild pheasant             371         7470     5240    1.426        Pork Spareribs            454         4730     3340    1.416        Tomato paste              262         282      200     1.410        Liver cheese              28          334      237     1.409        Chicken, dark meat, w/o s 109         1860     1320    1.409        Chicken, light meat w/o s 88          1730     1230    1.407        Chicken neck              79          298      212     1.406        Summer sausage            23          318      228     1.395        Pineapple                 155         39       28      1.393        Pork leg                  454         7550     5530    1.365        Pork loin chop            151         1950     1430    1.364        Pork Shoulder             454         7140     5240    1.363        Potato                    150         190      140     1.357        Chicken breast            181         2500     1870    1.337        Cream of Mushroom soup    244         127      95      1.337        Turkey noodle soup        244         212      159     1.333        Celery                    120         32       24      1.333        Chicken drumstick         110         1160     872     1.330        Potato, baking            202         283      214     1.322        Beef Flank steak          454         7270     5500    1.322        Chicken gumbo             244         161      122     1.320        Chicken noodle soup       241         219      166     1.319        Beef Round steak          454         7320    

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